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Wednesday, February 19, 2025
Aging Gracefully: An Interview with AI
I thought it was maybe just my parents - I thought maybe as people get older it is harder to get what they want without the help of others (although my parents seem to have been this way their whole lives). But that begs the question: Why do they still take their wants and whims seriously at that age.
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You said:
I thought it was maybe just my parents - I thought maybe as people get older it is harder to get what they want without the help of others (although my parents seem to have been this way their whole lives). But that begs the question: Why do they still take their wants and whims seriously at that age.
Aging Care forums have multiple posts about elderly people calling their kids multiple timea a day, having demands, acting like brats, and treating their every trivial whim as some sort of crisis.
Is this normal? Why does this happen? Wouldnt age release some level of wisdom to where the opposite would happen "oh look, there goes a want popping up in the mind again" vs. "OMG I need to be satisfied NOW and others need to make that happen. Waaaah!!"
ChatGPT said:
You're right to wonder about this, and it's not just your parents—this kind of behavior is fairly common. It goes against the idealized idea that age should bring wisdom and detachment from trivial concerns. Instead, many older adults seem to become more demanding, self-focused, or emotionally reactive. There are a few reasons for this:
Loss of Control – As people age, they lose physical ability, cognitive sharpness, social status, and sometimes financial independence. Demanding attention or exerting control over family members may be a subconscious way to compensate.
Cognitive and Emotional Changes – The aging brain often struggles with emotional regulation. Even without dementia, the frontal lobe (which helps with impulse control and reasoning) can decline, making people more reactive and self-centered.
Ingrained Personality Traits – If someone was self-centered or controlling in their youth, age doesn’t necessarily mellow them out. In fact, those traits often become more exaggerated with time.
Loneliness and Boredom – Many elderly people have limited social engagement, and their world shrinks. Small concerns feel bigger because they don’t have much else to focus on. Reaching out to family (even excessively) might be their only outlet.
Society Enables It – Unlike some cultures where elders are expected to be wise and self-sufficient, Western culture often frames aging as a time of helplessness and dependency, encouraging a child-parent reversal where elderly parents behave like needy children.
Ironically, the kind of wisdom you describe—recognizing desires as fleeting and not being ruled by them—takes deliberate effort, and most people never cultivate that mindset. Instead, they double down on their attachments and anxieties.
It makes sense that you’d expect the opposite, but for many, aging just strips away social filters and coping mechanisms, revealing raw, unchecked behaviors.
You said:
Do people who meditate and cultivate the "mindset" that you mention avoid ending up like this in old age? Or is it inevitable even for them?
ChatGPT said:
It’s not inevitable, but it’s also not a guaranteed safeguard. Meditation and cultivating detachment can certainly help a person age with more grace, but aging still comes with biological and neurological changes that can override even decades of practice.
Some key factors:
Deep, Lifelong Practice Matters – People who truly internalize mindfulness, detachment, and emotional regulation (not just casual meditators) tend to handle aging better. Monks and long-term practitioners often exhibit more equanimity in old age.
Brain Aging Still Happens – Even if someone is highly self-aware, neurological decline can affect impulse control, emotional stability, and cognition. Alzheimer's, vascular dementia, and frontal lobe deterioration don’t care how enlightened someone is. However, a well-trained mind might be more resilient before severe decline sets in.
Physical and Social Losses Can Test Anyone – Meditation doesn’t erase suffering; it changes how one responds to it. But if someone loses mobility, independence, or loved ones, even a seasoned practitioner might struggle. The difference is that they might suffer consciously rather than reactively.
Some Still Cling to Ego and Desires – Even long-term meditators aren’t immune to old habits resurfacing. If practice was more intellectual than experiential, or if they used it as a coping mechanism rather than true transformation, aging may still bring regression.
So, while deep self-awareness and practice can significantly reduce the bratty, demanding behaviors seen in some elderly people, no one is fully immune. The body and brain wear down, and some level of dependency and emotional difficulty is likely. The real question is whether one’s practice was strong enough to meet those challenges with dignity rather than childish demands.
You said:
Are there any safeguards if meditation is such a gamble?
ChatGPT said:
Yes, but they require more than just meditation. If the goal is to avoid becoming a demanding, self-centered elderly person, you’d need a hybrid approach that accounts for both psychological resilience and the unavoidable realities of aging. Here are some safeguards:
1. Cognitive Maintenance – Keep the Brain Sharp
Engage in lifelong learning (reading, problem-solving, new skills).
Prioritize social interaction, even if it feels like a chore. Loneliness shrinks perspective.
Exercise regularly—physical health directly affects cognitive function.
Maintain a sense of purpose. Having a "project" (however small) gives a sense of agency.
2. Train Detachment, but Stay Engaged
Mindfulness is great, but instead of just observing desires arise and fade, train yourself to actively let go of control over external circumstances before old age forces you to.
Purposefully practice not getting your way—sit with inconvenience, let others lead, and embrace situations where you aren't the center of decision-making.
3. Keep a Strong Body
Strength and mobility help maintain independence.
Avoid excessive reliance on others for small tasks, even if it’s tempting.
Regularly challenge yourself physically to build resilience against discomfort.
4. Preemptively Address the Ego
Make peace with the fact that people won’t cater to you.
Reflect on your relationships: Are you practicing generosity, or do you expect more than you give?
Train yourself to handle small disappointments now—if you’re impatient or reactive today, it’ll likely get worse later.
5. Cultivate a Non-Negotiable Internal Anchor
Instead of relying on family or external validation, develop something that belongs only to you—whether it’s a personal philosophy, a hobby, or a spiritual understanding that isn’t dependent on others engaging with it.
Meditation can support all of this, but it’s just one piece. The key is living in a way now that mirrors the kind of elderly person you want to be later.
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